We have combed through the live stream of the recent attempted child enticement arrest in Manitowoc, posted on Facebook by Bikers Against Predators. You can click here to see the full video. Below is the transcription of the interaction between Heath Grebe and the President of BAP, known only as Boots up until the police arrived.
Boots (B) – Sir, what are you doing?
Heath (H) – Huh?
B – What are you doing?
H – About what?
B – Who are you here meeting today?
H – I just wanted to say hi to her. I’m not doing anything else. I swear to God.
B – Heath…
H – I promise…I swear…
B – I’m here to have a conversation. I’m recording for safety. Heath, you have been having conversations with this…how old is she?
H – She said she’s 13.
B – 13?
H – Almost 14.
B – Almost 14? For a couple of months now. Okay? What are you doing? You have sent some super disgusting things to this 13 year old…And you are here to meet her. You talked about doing stuff with her. You have been begging her to meet.
H – Yup…I apologize.”
B – We are just here to talk. I’m not here to hurt you. I’m not law enforcement. I’m not here to hurt you or anything I just want a conversation.
H – I understand. I f***ed up.
B – Yeah because…this is a pretty secluded place. What was your intentions coming to meet her now?
H – Just to see her.
B – Just to see her and…
H – I wasn’t going to do anything I promise. I swear to God.
B – But what about all the conversations you had?
H – The conversations I’ve had?
B – Let me look it up here.
H – No! Don’t! You don’t have to…
B – No I need it for me to better understand.
H – Uhh it’s, it’s…
B – It’s pretty lengthy on this conversation.
H – I know and I f***ed up. I know, I don’t know how to explain it.
B – You asked if she’s ever been with another female.
H – I was just wondering…
B – Yeah, you was asking her if she has been with other males, females. You asked if she was scared to have intercourse.
H – I’m not…
B – You said that she should watch some videos. I mean you were sending her videos. Do you remember that?
H – I sent her a link. Not to any videos.
B – Right, but you sent her links to some adult content correct?
H – Yes.
B – Trying to teach her?
H – I guess so, yeah.
B – Right. Uhm. You said ‘You should watch this so you can learn how to do things.’
H – I apologize. I know I f***ed up.
B – You sent her…I have to go over this for me. Okay? We are a team that is just trying to better understand men’s thinking in this kind of thing. Okay?
H – Yeah, like I said, I f***ed up.
B – You sent her a link to an adult store. You remember that? Told her to pick out some toys that you were going to purchase for her. Specifically, was it a glass one you were going to get her?
H – Because that’s what she said she wanted.
B – Right. So you were going to get her this glass one…Uhm…At first, you said you guys would do things…only with protection or using the other way you have intercourse so that she doesn’t get pregnant.
H – I apologize. You don’t have to go through all of that. I already know it all.
B – Yeah, I have to go through it for me…So you talked also about making her a mother…So you were going to get this 13-year-old pregnant?
H – Not right now.
B – Well when were you? I mean…
H – I was going to wait till she was 18.
B- Oh, so she’s okay to do the things now, but then get her pregnant when she’s 18?
H – I see where you are going with that, yeah.
B – You asked her if she started her period yet…You asked her to describe how to pleasure herself. Said you ‘wish he was here to watch me do it’.
H – I apologize. Like I said, I f***ed up.
B – And this is the thing, is this, the parents of this child are giving me all this information, and I took it over after quite a while. After you’ve completely tried to destroy this child’s life.
H – I f**ed up. I apologize. You know what I mean?
B – And then, and then you talk about going camping where you guys can do stuff. The thing that really bothers me here Heath is that you wanted to meet her tomorrow with your kids and go fishing. You said ‘We can’t hand on each other because I don’t want them to know we are together.’
H – Yeah. I apologize…
B – With your children!… Thats a big thing for me is you have children, and you were going to take your kids to meet a kid!
H – Like I…Like I said I f***ed up.
B – What do you think your ex-wife would think about that? I know her situation isn’t great either, but you think she would be like ‘Oh yeah…’
H – No. She wouldn’t.
B – ‘…He’s a good guy. Ya know. Just keep letting him have the kids full time.’ So if she doesn’t have a home and you are out here trying to meet kids, how do you think, how are the kids in a stable home?
H – I understand. Obviously, I f***ed up. I really did. I really did f*** up and I apologize about that.
B – You told her that you could go to jail because, due to her age.
H – And I apologize.
B – You asked her for nude photographs. What if she would have sent you those nude photographs you were begging for.
H – I literally f***ed up. Like I said, I apologize. I didn’t mean any disrespect. I apologize.
B – You did mean something disrespectful bro! This is a child! A child! Reading these things is very disturbing for me. You are a grown adult. You are 36 years old. You have children. You have a wife right? Currently, married now?
H – Yeah.
B – What would your wife think?
H – She’d be a little upset.
B – You think she would? I think she would.
Female Parter with Boots – What would you think if this happened to your children in a few years?
H – I’d feel bad.
F – Exact same situation? Exact ages?
B – What if your ex-wife’s husband was doing this and your kids were going over there?
H – I would feel bad.
B- How do you think…you would…bad? You would feel bad that your wife is with someone that was trying to meet up with a child?
H – Yeah. I would feel bad. Uhh…
B – I wouldn’t feel bad bro.
H – I would feel bad for the child.
B – Naw, I’d raise all kinds of hell bro! I would raise all kinds of hell if that was my child over at my ex’s house with a guy that was trying to get with kids and my kids have to be in that home.
H – I understand. I…I…
B – I would want to break down the door and take him out.
H – I 100% agree. I…I was
B – Because I feel my kids would be in danger.
H – I wasn’t thinking. I really wasn’t.
B – You were thinking bro! This has been two months! This is not like this was a hot second where you had a lapse in judgement. You drove all the way here. You came in.
F – You talked every day.
B – You’ve talked every single day.
F – This was a commitment.
H – I understand that, but I wasn’t, how do I explain it? I wasn’t thinking thinking. I wasn’t using my…I don’t know how to explain it.
F – Is that a valid excuse to damage children?
H – No. It’s not.
F – Because you weren’t thinking clearly?
H – It’s not. And I apologize.
B – Do you know what happens to children when they…after these kinds of abuse happen? Do you really know? Do you the path that some of these children take growing up? Sometimes it’s not very well. Sometimes, and you see it in the news all the time, is that kids are taking their lives because of this. So Heath, I’m gonna let you know right now, my name is Boots Hansen, I run an online organization, Bikers Against Predators. I did call law enforcement, you might want to let the lodge know you are not going to make the meeting tonight.
H – F***
