House Speaker Paul Ryan says it doesn’t work when you take on President Trump publicly. The Wisconsin Republican says that approach isn’t effective. Ryan was quoted in a series of interviews conducted by the New York Times and presented online in a podcast. The Speaker says his constant private interaction with the president and White House officials made him effective, saying he tried to talk to Trump every other day. He says that how he avoided what he calls “tragedies.” Ryan has criticized the president, but he says he didn’t do that more often because he didn’t think it was a good approach.